能吃的織品、食物、可能還有電路板在裡面？Edible Textile, Food, Perhaps With Circuits too?

Posted by weiweiweiwear on 2020-09-22 12:29

Hello! for food I am interested in researching in growing edible crops for materials for textile fibre or natural dye in a greenhouse, and the design of the greenhouse depending on what crops we grow inside, I am open to connect this subject to other topics, innovative ideas too!

I’m available at UTC 14:00, or any other time suitable for others.

Posted by irisyireihu on 2020-09-23 00:33

I'm interested in connecting with both of you to see how some of these ideas can take shape. I posted a thread here earlier, but now I can't find it again. I'm available... I'm in MST until mid-October, possibly later, then PDT from then on. UTC 14:00 would be morning for me, which isn't the best time, but can try to make it work.

Right now, I'm in residence at Los Angeles Cleantech Incubator, where they have a bunch of start ups working on climate change mitigation in a variety of ways. My hope is to connect more with each start-up; they range from natural dye/ink production to finding better irrigation methods for green lawns to installing electric vehicle charging stations... many things. As an artist in residence there, I'll eventually have access to their prototyping facility (this is on hold because of COVID), and maybe that can be of help to us here.

Along with that, I'm working on a speculative fictional book on the "Blue People," where indigo dye, food waste (composting), regenerative technologies are central to the book. The book is set in the not too distant future. I'm trying to learn more about green technology through my residency program, as well as regenerative food/craft technology and the idea of an internet commons through HFF... craft is technology that reverberates through time and space. The book uses the lens of anthropology, first-hand accounts, art, poetry, and there will be an accompanying exhibition to the book. Hoping to connect. Maybe our creative paths can cross.

Posted by Victoria_Manganiello on 2020-09-24 02:15

What you've both written is so fascinating. I'd love to discuss more.

Starting next week, I will be in Bulgaria (GMT+3) so a meeting at UTC 1400 can work for me. It seems to be a decent time for others in Taiwan too?

What about a meeting after the in-person sessions at the NCTRI? So that participants there can have the chance to join us and bring their ideas from that session? Or should we do it before with the opposite rational?

Posted by weiweiweiwear on 2020-09-24 12:22

I never finish this book, still trying to... i know this is maybe be old to many of you but its still good:

a 16 mins talk of Albert Wenger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMx2rK5QduA
https://worldaftercapital.org/

• the binding constrain has shifted from capital to informations
• the knowledge loop: create->learn->share->create
• zero margin from digital technologies
• fight with climate change by generating more knowledges
• Mayan invented the concept of "zero"
• the climate change in Yucatan declined the society
• free ppl stuck in the job loop so they can join the knowledge loop
• the out of control patent system
• the knowledge commons
• economical freedom, informational freedom, psychological freedom
• our brains are biological evolving along with these social evolving

• 綁定約束已從資本轉移到信息
• 知識循環：create-> learn-> share-> create
• 數字技術的零利潤
• 通過積累更多知識來應對氣候變化
• 瑪雅人發明了“零”的概念
• 尤卡坦州的氣候變化使社會衰落
• 困在工作循環中的免費ppl，以便他們可以加入知識循環
• 失控的專利制度
• 知識共享
• 經濟自由，信息自由，心理自由
• 我們的大腦中的生物進化與社會進化並行

Posted by tauan on 2020-09-25 09:51

I am intestested about mapping plants/species to grow for experimentations on closed loop ecoystems and making textiles, dyes, food, etc.

Which means exchanging ideas about growing on hydro/aquaponics, agroforest, or even at home with some organic scraps.

Posted by zereshk on 2020-09-26 06:33

Has anyone used nettles for textiles? I love that nettles can be food and fiber. Here in Miami it is easier to grow bananas or other subtropicals/tropical climate plants.

I also grow sunn hemp as a cover crop, I am mostly interested in using food waste to build soil

Posted by yiyuchen on 2020-09-26 14:49

I am interested in nettles, too! There's a fb group "Nettles for Textiles" where people discuss how they process nettles to spinning. However, here in Taiwan the native nettle (Taiwan Nettle/ Urtica taiwaniana) we have is a very nasty specie (highly sensitizing) and only grow on high altitude area, it got nickname as "Biting Cat". I think some aboriginal tribes used them for certain textile purpose, but it's very rare though, ramie is the main textile material.
Despite that, we do have jute (probably imported in Qing dynasty) that used for textile (maybe until Japan colonial period) and we still eat them today. The industry base on jute textile is no longer popular, maybe i should do some research on it.
In Taiwan we also use banana and pineapple as fiber

Posted by weiweiweiwear on 2020-09-26 15:08

oh me too! I just realized what is nettle, I just know it can be anti inflammatory. Zohar and me was talking about the iceolator method, maybe can get some oil from it and mix it in gelatin for some bio plastic film?

I use the bio plastic script here in my workshop it works great.

btw I am inviting the banana fibre Kamalan community 新社 to join the workshop, but we don't know how they want to participate in the workshop yet, maybe some demonstration for fibre processing and share a documentary of how they develop the community.